Neff / Нефф

Объявления о поиске по фамилиям, начинающимся с буквы "N".
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Neff / Нефф

Сообщение uulja » 04 янв 2014, 00:04

Добрый день, уважаемые форумчане!

Мой дедушка, Нефф Петр Андреевич, 1912 - 1988 , возможно уроженец села Старая Рига Омской области, немец по национальности.
У Нефф Петра Андреевича были по рассказам родственников братья и сестры.: Нефф Соломон Андреевич, 1903 г.р. , Екатерина, Нина, Мария, Иван, Елена, Полина, Алефтина.
Их отец Нефф Андрей ( Иванович?) ( жена -Ульяна), умер в 1921 году, где - не знаем, не знаем откуда(вроде бы из Поволжья), хотя кто-то когда-то говорил , что они из Эстляндии, у него был брат Александр (жена Анна)
Вот о нем -Андрее Ивановиче и соответственно более ранних родственниках по этой фамилии хотелось что-либо узнать, из какой они колонии и как попали в Россию.
Составили запрос в Челябинский архив, там информация по аресту Петра Андреевича, но эта информация не дает дальше двигаться.
Подскажите, пожалуйста, дальнейшее направление, буду вам очень признательна.
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Re: Нефф/Neff

Сообщение Марьяновка » 04 янв 2014, 01:02

Старая Рига (Черненькая) наряду с деревнями: Рыжкова, Гельсингфорс (Пупково), Нарва(Чумашки), Ревель (Шмоткина) была
организована правительством где-то около 1860 года (по некоторым данным 1809) специально для ссыльных лютеран. В нее ссылали
шведов, финнов, эстонцев, латышей и немцев. В 1886 году несколько жителей из этих деревень образовали на Алтае деревню
Ащегуль. Несмотря на немецкие фамилии, некоторых поселенцев, церковные службы пастор проводил у них на латышском и эстонском языках.

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Re: Нефф/Neff

Сообщение uulja » 04 янв 2014, 13:39

Спасибо большое! Я правильно понимаю, что дальнейший мой путь лежит в исторические и т.п. Архивы Омска и его области и, возможно, в Питерский лютеранский собор? Или существуют списки переселенных лютеранн?
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Re: Neff / Нефф

Сообщение Марьяновка » 04 янв 2014, 14:20

Я вовсе не утверждаю, что Ваши предки были выселены. Вполне возможно, что они могли попасть туда и добровольно, но для того чтобы начать поиски, Вам в любом случае необходимо обратиться в Омский архив. Попробуйте для начала заглянуть в сельскохозяйственную перепись 1916-1917 г.г. В них, как правило, указывались губерния выхода и год прихода в Сибирь.

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Re: Neff / Нефф

Сообщение uulja » 04 янв 2014, 20:43

Спасибо, буду писать в архив и продолжать читать. *HI*
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Re: Neff / Нефф

Сообщение uulja » 13 июн 2014, 12:32

Здравствуйте! Двигалась по указанным направлениям, получила много полезной информации из архивов, дошла до 1864 г и опять остановилась:))
Последний архив сообщил, что Нефф Андрей Иванович (Яковлевич) / Neff Georg Heinrich 1864 г. Р. И его жена Нефф Юлия Ивановна / Usbeck Эмилия Мария 1871 г. Р. Брак в 1887 году в Омской области. Дети - Георг Генрих, Мария, Катерина, Петр, Соломон, Гельдина, Иоганесса , Елена, Паулина ( все рождены уже в Омской области).
Neff Georg Heinrich - в справке архива указано, что родился в Самаровской губернии, Анбурский ( так прочитала работники архива) уезд в ~1864 году и там же родился его брат Нефф Егор 1860 г. Р. С супругой Екатериной Давыдовной и детьми Александром, Еленой .
На другом форуме нашла вот такие записи

Klug (Pflug?),Johann Philipp,38,luth.,Schneider aus Dens
aus Leitsinger;
Korger,Johann,10,kat., aus Bamberg , Weise aus Holzel;
Kraft,Peter,21,luth.,Ackerbauer aus Darmstadt,Nieder-Modau
aus Straub;
Krieger,Rudolf,40,luth., Ackerbauer aus Dessau,Oranienbaum aus Jost;
Lehmann,Carl Gottlieb,40,luth., Ackerbauer aus Sachsen,Pedau
aus Stahl am Tarlyk;
Metzler,Johannes,20,luth., Ackerbauer aus Nassau,Lahnstein aus Straub;
Michael,Konrad,55,ref., Ackerbauer aus Isenburg aus Moor;
Morasch,Johannes,13 aus Kurpfalz,Eberbach aus Lauwe;
Muhl,Johann Heinrich Heinrich,37,luth., Ackerbauer aus Darmstadt,Altenburen aus Warenburg;
Neff,Heinrich,26,luth.,Schneider aus Holstein,Eichelwir?
aus Dinkel;


Neff, Heinrich 1864 Dinkel A3342EWZ50-F074 0054,

Может быть кто либо знает как расшифровать эти записи?
И мне подсказали, что Нефф проживали в этих колониях , но никак не соображу , как мне их сопоставить?.. Где можно найти эти списки ?..
1857
Neff Dinkel (15) Laub (2) Warenburg (7)
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Re: Neff / Нефф

Сообщение Alexander-57 » 13 июн 2014, 13:13

uulja писал(а):Neff,Heinrich,26,luth.,Schneider aus Holstein,Eichelwir?
aus Dinkel;

Среди первых поселенцев 1767 года по фамилии Neff были:

Neff, Heinrich, Dinkel И.Плеве "Einwanderung in das Wolgagebiet 1764-1767" т.1 стр. 304
Изображение

Neff, Heinrich, Rohleder И.Плеве т.4 стр.54
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Neff, Konrad, Niedermonjou И.Плеве т.3 стр.202
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Re: Neff / Нефф

Сообщение uulja » 13 июн 2014, 13:19

Спасибо за столь быстрый ответ!
А теперь я должна от обратного найти родословные этих семей вверх: дети, внуки и и.д ?
Извините, что так подробно спрашиваю, мало опыта:))
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Сообщение Alexander-57 » 13 июн 2014, 13:31

uulja писал(а):Neff, Heinrich 1864 Dinkel A3342EWZ50-F074 0054,
Может быть кто либо знает как расшифровать эти записи?

Вот вся семья Neff, Heinrich в сборе согласно поиска по EWZ-спискам:

For the query, F074 0054, of category War Records
File: 243,015 EWZ Index for Miscellaneous Films 191 (E. Bischoff)

Lytschkowski, Fedje 1854 Chadutschitschi A3342EWZ50-F074 0054
Lytschkowski, Marianne 1865 Chadutschitschi A3342EWZ50-F074 0054 geb. Bobkowa
Neff, Auguste 1869 Kubani A3342EWZ50-F074 0054 geb. Boher
Neff, Heinrich 1864 Dinkel A3342EWZ50-F074 0054
Neff, Lilli 30 Oct 1927 Chadutschitschi A3342EWZ50-F074 0054
Neff, Tatjana 18 Aug 1899 Chadutschitschi A3342EWZ50-F074 0054 geb. Lytschkowski
Neff, Wilhelm 11 Aug 1906 Dinkel A3342EWZ50-F074 0054

Neff, Heinrich по время войны был с семьей зарегистрирован в Германии и скорее всего сам он там наверное не был уже, а был назван, как отцом его сыном Neff, Wilhelm , A3342EWZ50-F074 0054 - это номер микрофильма, для поиска полной семьи надо брать его окончание после черточки F074 0054 и выбирать категорию поиска по этим спискам EWZ - War Records.

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Re: Neff / Нефф

Сообщение viktor 2 » 13 июн 2014, 13:37

uulja писал(а):Neff Dinkel (15) Laub (2) Warenburg (7)

Сосредоточьте свои поиски на колоние Динкель. В двух других, семей Нефф на 1857 год не было.
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Re: Neff / Нефф

Сообщение Alexander-57 » 13 июн 2014, 13:58

По ревизии 1798 года фамилия Neff проходила в следующих колониях:

1798 - Neff - Dn14; Dn22; Dn35

Dn14 Heinrich Neff h 55
Anna Dorothea Nikolaus sp 57
Otto Wilhelm s 3 0
Anna Maria Arb dl 26
Georg Peter gs 6
Andreas Jakob gs 1
Maria Elisabeth gd 5

Dn22 Peter Heinrich Neff h 28
Maria Elisabeth Stelding sp 26 deceased husband:Heinrich Stelding
Henrietta Stelding sd 8 father:Heinrich Stelding

Dn35 Jakob Heinrich h 52
Helena Neff sp 49
Johann Wilhelm s 14
Anna Margaretha d 2 0
Johann Georg Holzer sl 31 from Norka
Andreas Heinrich gs 1
Juliana Barbara d 7

Выбывшие 1798:

Laub - Mv1503 8 1791 Maria Elisabeth Braun married Peter Neff in Dinkel
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Re: Neff / Нефф

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По спискам Кульберга из Любека (Германия) в Россию в Ораниенбаум прибыли следующие Neff:

Индекс: Изображение

Из всех этих Neff Вам будет интересна только семья Otto Neff на стр.69:

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Если Ваши предки действительно из колонии Динкель, то Otto Neff тогда Ваш первый предок, от которого пошли все Neff в данной колонии, он наверное с его женой Маргаретой не пережили длинную дорогу от Ораниенбаума до Волги и умерли, а в колонию прибыли только их сыновья:

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Сообщение uulja » 13 июн 2014, 17:47

Спасибо большое! За такое подробное разъяснение!

Я так понимаю, что данные о рождении за временной промежуток 1857-1864 гг мне надо запросить в архиве?
Меня смущает момент, о котором рассказал один из родственников ( больше он , к сожалению, не разговаривает с нами ) : в ~ 1955-1965 годах он с папой и бабушкой вернулся на родину в Эстонию...
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Re: Neff / Нефф

Сообщение Mina » 13 июн 2014, 18:37

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Сообщение Alexander-57 » 13 июн 2014, 18:40

uulja писал(а):Я так понимаю, что данные о рождении за временной промежуток 1857-1864 гг мне надо запросить в архиве?

По ревизии 1816-1834 годов в колонии Динкель было 13 семей с представителями фамилии Neff, а при ревизии 1850-1857 г. 15 семей.
Эти данные можно спросить у обладателей переписей по данной колонии у нас на форуме, а после 1857 года все надо искать уже в архивах, на этой странице по Динкель найдете по ссылкам данные о наличии документов в Самарском и Энгельском архивах по этой колонии.
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Сообщение Alexander-57 » 13 июн 2014, 19:13

Вот тут посмотрите еще родословные по Куккускому кантону в том числе и по Dinkel (Tarlykovka), где здесь имеюся сведения на 122 персоны фамилии Neff из Динкель, а тут поколенная роспись первопоселенца Heinrich Neff с некоторыми ветками по мигрировавшим в Америку.
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Сообщение uulja » 13 июн 2014, 19:28

Александр, спасибо за информацию и за дальнейшее направление!
Буду искать в обе стороны.



Mina! Спасибо за ссылку!

Открыла ее - и как всегда, не понимаю, что мне с этим делать...
Следует перелистать все вручную?
И со чем говориться в этих протоколах?
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Сообщение Mina » 13 июн 2014, 19:37

Это церковные книги.
Посмотрите по годам, где должны родиться Ваши и проверьте на свою фамилию. Кропотливо искать по разным селам, но вопрос у вас по Эстонии остался. Вход на сайт нужно регистририваться.
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Сообщение uulja » 13 июн 2014, 19:38

Александр!
Ни одна из трех ссылок не открывается, пишет , что браузеру не удалось подключиться к серверу :(
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uulja писал(а):Ни одна из трех ссылок не открывается, пишет , что браузеру не удалось подключиться к серверу

Не знаю, что у Вас такое, у меня открывается нормально через мой любимый браузер Mozilla Firefox, а сейчас пробовал еще через встроенный браузер в ОС Виндовс Internet Explorer и тоже все отлично работает.

Если не откроете то скопировал Вам оттуда на всякий случай ниже:

 Родословная первопоселенца Heinrich Neff из Динкель
Descendant Register, Generation No. 1

1. Heinrich Neff was born ABT 1743 in Achterwehr, Holstein <Germany>. He married Anna Dorothea Nikolaisen. She was born ABT 1741 in Achterwehr, Holstein <Germany>.
Children of Heinrich Neff and Anna Dorothea Nikolaisen are:
+ 2 i. Otto Wilhelm Neff was born ABT 1768 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1833 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
3 ii. Peter Heinrich Neff was born ABT 1770 in Russia. He married Maria Elisabeth <Stelding>. She was born ABT 1772 in Russia.

Descendant Register, Generation No. 2

2. Otto Wilhelm Neff (Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1768 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1833 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Anna Maria Arb, daughter of Johann Arb and Louisa Neiman. She was born ABT 1772 in Russia.

Children of Otto Wilhelm Neff and Anna Maria Arb are:
+ 4 i. Georg Peter Neff was born ABT 1792 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1855 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
5 ii. Maria Elisabeta Neff was born ABT 1793 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
+ 6 iii. Andreas Jakob Neff was born ABT 1797 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1847 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
+ 7 iv. Johann Heinrich Neff was born ABT 1802 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
+ 8 v. Johann Wilhelm Neff was born ABT 1804 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1849 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Descendant Register, Generation No. 3

4. Georg Peter Neff (Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1792 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1855 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married [--?--] [--?--]. She was born UNKNOWN in Russia. He married Katharina Klara [--?--]. She was born ABT 1785 in Russia. He married Anna Katharina Vogt. She was born ABT 1785 in Russia.

Children of Georg Peter Neff and [--?--] [--?--] are:
+ 9 i. Johann Peter Neff was born ABT 1809 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
+ 10 ii. Jakob Friedrich Neff was born ABT 1812 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1848 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
+ 11 iii. Anna Christina Neff was born ABT 1815 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
12 iv. Margaretha Elisabeth Neff was born ABT 1821 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Children of Georg Peter Neff and Katharina Klara [--?--] are:
+ 13 i. Maria Justina Neff was born ABT 1824 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
+ 14 ii. Johann Heinrich Neff was born 13 JAN 1833 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 29 JAN 1902 in Russia.

6. Andreas Jakob Neff (Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1797 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1847 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Christina Gradwohl. She was born ABT 1814 in Russia. He married [--?--] [--?--]. She was born UNKNOWN in Russia.

Children of Andreas Jakob Neff and [--?--] [--?--] are:
15 i. Maria Christina Neff was born ABT 1824 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
+ 16 ii. Johann Wilhelm Neff was born ABT 1826 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1853 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
17 iii. Maria Margaretha Neff was born ABT 1832 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
18 iv. Gottfried Neff was born ABT 1836 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Maria Margaretha Nikolaisen. She was born ABT 1837 in Russia.
19 v. Johann Georg Neff was born ABT 1843 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
20 vi. Peter Neff was born ABT 1845 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
21 vii. August Neff was born ABT 1848 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

7. Johann Heinrich Neff (Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1802 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Katharina Elisabeth Hubert. She was born ABT 1803 in Russia.

Children of Johann Heinrich Neff and Katharina Elisabeth Hubert are:
+ 22 i. Maria Katharina Neff was born ABT 1821 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
+ 23 ii. Maria Margaretha Neff was born ABT 1824 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
24 iii. Maria Elisabeth Neff was born ABT 1827 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
25 iv. Georg Friedrich Neff was born ABT 1833 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1840 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

8. Johann Wilhelm Neff (Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1804 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1849 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Maria Margaretha [--?--]. She was born ABT 1806 in Russia.

Children of Johann Wilhelm Neff and Maria Margaretha [--?--] are:
+ 26 i. Maria Margaretha Neff was born ABT 1829 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
27 ii. Katharina Elisabeth Neff was born ABT 1831 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
+ 28 iii. Andreas Jakob Neff was born ABT 1833 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
29 iv. Margaretha Neff was born ABT 1836 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
30 v. Johann Heinrich Neff was born ABT 1838.
31 vi. Johann Peter Neff was born ABT 1840 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
32 vii. Anna Maria Neff was born ABT 1843 in Russia.

Descendant Register, Generation No. 4

9. Johann Peter Neff (Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1809 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Maria Katharina Mehl, daughter of [--?--] Mehl and [--?--] Nikolaisen. She was born ABT 1809 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Anna Katharina [--?--]. She was born ABT 1809 in Russia.

Children of Johann Peter Neff and Maria Katharina Mehl are:
33 i. Johann Andreas Neff was born ABT 1844 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
34 ii. Anna Katharina Neff was born ABT 1848 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Children of Johann Peter Neff and Anna Katharina [--?--] are:
35 i. Johann Friedrich Neff was born ABT 1831 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1850 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
36 ii. Maria Margaretha Neff was born ABT 1834 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

10. Jakob Friedrich Neff (Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1812 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1848 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married [--?--] [--?--]. She was born UNKNOWN in Russia. He married [--?--] [--?--]. She was born UNKNOWN in Russia.

Children of Jakob Friedrich Neff and [--?--] [--?--] are:
+ 37 i. Maria Elisabeth Neff was born ABT 1832 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
38 ii. Jakob Friedrich Neff was born ABT 1834 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1840 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Children of Jakob Friedrich Neff and [--?--] [--?--] are:
39 i. Margaretha Neff was born ABT 1839 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
40 ii. Maria Justina Neff was born ABT 1842 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
41 iii. Georg Andreas Neff was born ABT 1845 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
42 iv. Sophia Maria Neff was born ABT 1848 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

11. Anna Christina Neff (Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1815 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. She married Johann Gottfried Lutz, son of Heinrich Joseph Lutz and Maria Elisabeth [--?--]. He was born ABT 1816 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Children of Anna Christina Neff and Johann Gottfried Lutz are:
+ 43 i. Georg Andreas Lutz was born 19 OCT 1836 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
44 ii. Sophia Lutz was born ABT 1839 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
45 iii. Christina Lutz was born ABT 1841 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
46 iv. Heinrich Lutz was born ABT 1842 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
47 v. Margaretha Lutz was born ABT 1844 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
48 vi. Johann Peter Lutz was born ABT 1845 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
49 vii. Maria Margaretha Lutz was born ABT 1847 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
50 viii. Susanna Lutz was born ABT 1851.
51 ix. Friedrich Lutz was born ABT 1854 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
52 x. Maria Katharina Lutz was born ABT 1856 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

13. Maria Justina Neff (Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1824 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. She married Johann Friedrich Biehl, son of Johann Heinrich Bell and Magdalena Herrmann. He was born ABT 1824 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Children of Maria Justina Neff and Johann Friedrich Biehl are:
53 i. Maria Christina Biehl was born ABT 1844 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
54 ii. Anna Maria Biehl was born ABT 1847 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
55 iii. Johann Heinrich Biehl was born ABT 1849 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
56 iv. Andreas Biehl was born ABT 1852 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
57 v. Georg Heinrich Biehl was born ABT 1854 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
58 vi. Margaretha Biehl was born ABT 1855 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

14. Johann Heinrich Neff (Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 13 JAN 1833 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 29 JAN 1902 in Russia. He married Margaretha Horn. She was born ABT 1832 in Russia. He married Elisabeth Dumler BEF 1883. She was born UNKNOWN in Russia.

Children of Johann Heinrich Neff and Margaretha Horn are:
59 i. Katharina Neff was born ABT 1854 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
60 ii. Margaretha Neff was born ABT 1856 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
61 iii. Heinrich Neff was born ABT 1857 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1903. He married Anna Margaretha Miller. She was born UNKNOWN in Russia.
+ 62 iv. Maria Margaretha Neff was born 1861 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1899.
+ 63 v. Johann Georg Neff was born ABT 1863 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1893.
+ 64 vi. Georg Heinrich Neff was born 5 OCT 1866 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 20 JUN 1948 in San Joaquin County, California.
+ 65 vii. August Neff was born 6 JUL 1872 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 24 MAY 1952 in San Joaquin County, California.

Children of Johann Heinrich Neff and Elisabeth Dumler are:
66 i. Friedrich Neff was born ABT 1883 in Russia, and died 1923. He married Louisa Merk ABT 1898. She was born UNKNOWN in Russia.
67 ii. Karl Neff was born ABT 1885 in Russia, and died 17 MAY 1927. He married Maria Katharina Lutz. She was born UNKNOWN in Russia.
+ 68 iii. Alexander Neff was born 15 NOV 1887 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 16 AUG 1935 in Burleigh County, North Dakota.

16. Johann Wilhelm Neff (Andreas Jakob Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1826 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1853 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Sophia Kromer. She was born ABT 1827 in Russia.

Children of Johann Wilhelm Neff and Sophia Kromer are:
69 i. Johann Georg Neff was born ABT 1849 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
70 ii. Heinrich Neff was born ABT 1852 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

22. Maria Katharina Neff (Johann Heinrich Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1821 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. She married Johann Gottfried Müller, son of Andreas Friedrich Müller and [--?--] [--?--]. He was born ABT 1816 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Children of Maria Katharina Neff and Johann Gottfried Müller are:
71 i. Elisabeth Müller was born ABT 1841 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
72 ii. Heinrich Müller was born ABT 1843 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
73 iii. Katharina Müller was born ABT 1846 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
74 iv. Katharina Barbara Müller was born ABT 1849 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
75 v. Katharina Susanna Müller was born ABT 1854 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

23. Maria Margaretha Neff (Johann Heinrich Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1824 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. She married Johann Andreas Ries, son of Andreas Peter Ries and [--?--] [--?--]. He was born ABT 1825 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1854 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Child of Maria Margaretha Neff and Johann Andreas Ries is:
76 i. Georg Philipp Ries was born ABT 1850 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1850 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

26. Maria Margaretha Neff (Johann Wilhelm Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1829 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. She married Johann Heinrich Petersohn, son of Johann Friedrich Petersohn and Christina Maria Vorath. He was born ABT 1829 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Children of Maria Margaretha Neff and Johann Heinrich Petersohn are:
77 i. Katharina Petersohn was born ABT 1849 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
78 ii. Andreas Petersohn was born ABT 1852 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
79 iii. Heinrich Petersohn was born ABT 1854 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

28. Andreas Jakob Neff (Johann Wilhelm Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1833 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Christina Adalber. She was born ABT 1835 in Russia.

Child of Andreas Jakob Neff and Christina Adalber is:
80 i. Maria Barbara Neff was born ABT 1855 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Descendant Register, Generation No. 5

37. Maria Elisabeth Neff (Jakob Friedrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1832 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. She married Johann Peter Benzler, son of Johann Heinrich Benzler and Eva Katharina Wulf. He was born ABT 1832 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Children of Maria Elisabeth Neff and Johann Peter Benzler are:
81 i. Jakob Benzler was born ABT 1854 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
82 ii. Margaretha Benzler was born ABT 1856.

43. Georg Andreas Lutz (Anna Christina Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 19 OCT 1836 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. He married Margaretha Worm, daughter of Johann Adam Worm and Katharina Maria [--?--]. She was born ABT 1835 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Child of Georg Andreas Lutz and Margaretha Worm is:
83 i. Katharina Margaretha Lutz was born ABT 1857 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

62. Maria Margaretha Neff (Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 1861 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1899. She married Johann Heinrich Nilmaier, son of Johann Heinrich Nilmaier and Maria Christina Metzler. He was born 11 SEP 1853 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Children of Maria Margaretha Neff and Johann Heinrich Nilmaier are:
+ 84 i. Heinrich Nilmeier was born 1 OCT 1874 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 6 OCT 1919 in Fresno County, California.
85 ii. Elisa Nilmeier was born 6 MAR 1880 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 22 JAN 1881 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.
86 iii. Christina Nilmeier was born 13 SEP 1883 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 15 AUG 1884 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

63. Johann Georg Neff (Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born ABT 1863 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 1893. He married Maria Elisabeth Vorath. She was born ABT 1868 in Laub (Tarlyk), Kukkus, Samara, Russia.

Child of Johann Georg Neff and Maria Elisabeth Vorath is:
87 i. Maria Katharina Neff was born 19 FEB 1892 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 6 AUG 1976 in Kenner, Jefferson Parish, Louisiana. She married Johann Philipp Debus 1910 in Kukkus (Wolskoje), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, son of Johann Philipp Debus and Maria Elisabeth Mohr. He was born 31 JAN 1885 in Kukkus (Wolskoje), Kukkus, Samara, Russia. She married John Wackel 1923. He was born UNKNOWN.

64. Georg Heinrich Neff (Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 5 OCT 1866 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 20 JUN 1948 in San Joaquin County, California. He was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota. He married Maria Katherina Rau ABT 1889, daughter of Johann Peter Rau and Anna Margaretha Beiden. She was born 29 MAY 1868 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 8 NOV 1929 in Sheridan County, North Dakota. She was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota. He married Barbara Hildenbrand AFT 1930. She was born 22 OCT 1868 in Friedensfeld, Bender, Bessarabia, Russia, and died 5 MAY 1951 in San Joaquin County, California.

Children of Georg Heinrich Neff and Maria Katherina Rau are:
+ 88 i. Heinrich Neff was born 25 OCT 1889 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 16 FEB 1951 in Boise, Ada County, Idaho.
89 ii. Maria K. Neff was born ABT 1897 in Russia.
+ 90 iii. Karl G. Neff was born 15 DEC 1898 in Russia, and died 10 APR 1966 in Sheridan County, North Dakota.
91 iv. August G. Neff was born 17 OCT 1903 in North Dakota, and died 16 MAR 1922 in Stutsman County, North Dakota.
+ 92 v. Aaron Neff was born 15 AUG 1906 in North Dakota, and died 9 FEB 1953 in Ward County, North Dakota.
+ 93 vi. Christian G. Neff was born 3 MAR 1908 in North Dakota, and died 24 JAN 1948 in Burleigh County, North Dakota.
94 vii. Theodore Neff was born 15 SEP 1909 in North Dakota, and died 28 MAY 1977 in San Benito County, California. He married Louisa Petersohn, daughter of Philipp Petersohn and Louisa Seiler. She was born 30 JAN 1910 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 17 DEC 1979 in San Benito County, California.
95 viii. Edwin Neff was born 15 AUG 1912 in North Dakota, and died 25 DEC 1970 in Burleigh County, North Dakota. He married Ella M. Broeckel. She was born 26 APR 1911, and died 20 JAN 2002.

65. August Neff (Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 6 JUL 1872 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 24 MAY 1952 in San Joaquin County, California. He married Maria Katharina Heidt 12 FEB 1896 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, daughter of Johann Konrad Heidt and Maria Katharina Preis. She was born 1 SEP 1876 in Lauwe (Jablonowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 9 DEC 1926 in Sheridan County, North Dakota. She was buried 12 DEC 1926 in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota. He married Katherine [--?--] BET 1926 AND 1930. She was born ABT 1880 in South Dakota.

Children of August Neff and Maria Katharina Heidt are:
96 i. August A. Neff was born 2 JUN 1900 in North Dakota, and died 25 SEP 1975 in McLean County, North Dakota. He married Amelia Stroh 1926. She was born 15 JUN 1906 in Karlsruhe (Stepovoye), Beresan, Kherson, Russia, and died 26 JUL 1988 in Burleigh County, North Dakota.
97 ii. Henry H. Neff was born 13 APR 1902 in North Dakota, and died 5 NOV 1977 in Solano County, California.
98 iii. Nettie Neff was born ABT 1904 in North Dakota.
99 iv. Charles A. Neff was born 15 JAN 1906 in North Dakota, and died 18 MAY 1981 in Sheridan County, North Dakota. He married Minnie Wentz 1929. She was born 8 AUG 1909, and died 5 AUG 1988 in McLean County, North Dakota.
100 v. Esther Neff was born 8 SEP 1908 in North Dakota, and died 21 JAN 1975 in Sheridan County, North Dakota. She married Jack Schindler, son of Jacob Schindler and Susanna Schmidt. He was born 30 DEC 1904 in Turner County, South Dakota, and died 20 MAY 1998 in Burleigh County, North Dakota.
101 vi. Emil Neff was born ABT 1911 in North Dakota.
102 vii. Minnie Neff was born ABT 1914 in North Dakota.
103 viii. Olinda Neff was born 4 JUL 1915 in North Dakota, and died 30 JAN 2002. She married Edwin J. Berg. He was born 24 JUN 1912.
104 ix. Living Neff.
105 x. Reuben Neff was born 27 MAR 1920 in North Dakota, and died 7 FEB 1968 in Sacramento County, California.

68. Alexander Neff (Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 15 NOV 1887 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 16 AUG 1935 in Burleigh County, North Dakota. He was buried in St. John's Cemetery - Arena, Burleigh County, North Dakota. He married Eva Holwegner ABT 1910. She was born 1 DEC 1891 in Bergdorf (Kolosowa), Glueckstal, Odessa, Russia, and died 30 OCT 1969. She was buried in St. John's Cemetery - Arena, Burleigh County, North Dakota.

Children of Alexander Neff and Eva Holwegner are:
106 i. Alexander Neff was born 1 SEP 1910 in North Dakota, and died 1 DEC 1965 in Burleigh County, North Dakota. He married Marjorie E. Galbreath. She was born UNKNOWN, and died 2000.
107 ii. Ella Neff was born 26 APR 1912 in North Dakota.
108 iii. Marie Neff was born 30 DEC 1913 in North Dakota.
109 iv. Living Neff.
110 v. Living Neff.
111 vi. Living Neff.
112 vii. Living Neff.
113 viii. Living Neff.
114 ix. Herbert Ruben Neff was born 15 DEC 1928 in North Dakota, and died 15 DEC 1979 in King County, Washington.

Descendant Register, Generation No. 6

84. Heinrich Nilmeier (Maria Margaretha Neff5, Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 1 OCT 1874 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 6 OCT 1919 in Fresno County, California. He was buried in Mountain View Cemetery - Fresno, Fresno County, California. He married Anna Kruse 15 JAN 1897. She was born 6 NOV 1874 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 17 FEB 1971 in Fresno County, California.

Children of Heinrich Nilmeier and Anna Kruse are:
+ 115 i. Benjamin Henry Nilmeier was born 6 DEC 1898 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 24 NOV 1982 in Fresno County, California.
+ 116 ii. Heinrich J. Nilmeier was born 27 FEB 1901 in Russia, and died 25 FEB 1960 in Fresno County, California.
+ 117 iii. Anna Nilmeier was born 4 JUL 1903 in Russia, and died 12 DEC 1969 in Fresno County, California.
+ 118 iv. August A. Nilmeier was born 29 AUG 1905 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 17 JAN 1969 in Los Angeles County, California.
+ 119 v. Katharina Nilmeier was born 20 JAN 1908 in Russia, and died 10 JAN 1996 in Sacramento County, California.
120 vi. Alex Nilmeier was born 17 AUG 1911 in Straub (Skatowka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 5 DEC 1962 in Fresno County, California. He married Helen Marie Kinzel, daughter of Georg Frederick Kinzel and Katharina Kisling. She was born 15 APR 1914 in Fresno County, California, and died 1 NOV 2003 in Fresno County, California.

88. Heinrich Neff (Georg Heinrich Neff5, Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 25 OCT 1889 in Dinkel (Tarlykovka), Kukkus, Samara, Russia, and died 16 FEB 1951 in Boise, Ada County, Idaho. He was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota. He married Emma Herr 12 DEC 1909 in McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota, daughter of Fredrich G. Herr and Karolina Krein. She was born 18 DEC 1892 in South Dakota, and died 22 SEP 1977 in McLean County, North Dakota. She was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota.

Children of Heinrich Neff and Emma Herr are:
121 i. Bertha Neff was born 15 SEP 1910 in North Dakota, and died 4 JUL 1987 in Burleigh County, North Dakota. She married Edward Bonnet. He was born 8 AUG 1907, and died 22 SEP 1988 in McLean County, North Dakota.
122 ii. Clarence Neff was born 20 JAN 1912 in North Dakota, and died 23 MAR 2005 in Burleigh County, North Dakota. He married Adelina Hegel 8 OCT 1934, daughter of Philipp Hegel and Rosena Voegele. She was born 1 MAR 1915 in North Dakota, and died 13 APR 2005 in Burleigh County, North Dakota.
123 iii. Albert H. Neff was born 24 JUN 1914 in North Dakota, and died 23 MAR 1934 in Sheridan County, North Dakota.
124 iv. Arthur Neff was born 2 MAY 1915 in North Dakota, and died 14 OCT 1980 in Burleigh County, North Dakota. He married Ida Herr. She was born 6 OCT 1918, and died 22 OCT 2011 in Burleigh County, North Dakota.
125 v. Living Neff.
126 vi. Living Neff.
127 vii. Living Neff.

90. Karl G. Neff (Georg Heinrich Neff5, Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 15 DEC 1898 in Russia, and died 10 APR 1966 in Sheridan County, North Dakota. He was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota. He married Martha Schindler 6 FEB 1921, daughter of Jacob Schindler and Susanna Schmidt. She was born 30 DEC 1902 in Turner County, South Dakota, and died 11 JAN 1993 in Ward County, North Dakota. She was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota.

Children of Karl G. Neff and Martha Schindler are:
128 i. Living Neff.
129 ii. Living Neff.
130 iii. Living Neff.

92. Aaron Neff (Georg Heinrich Neff5, Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 15 AUG 1906 in North Dakota, and died 9 FEB 1953 in Ward County, North Dakota. He was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota. He married Hilda Johnson ABT 1924. She was born 25 OCT 1905 in North Dakota, and died 14 MAY 1991 in Burleigh County, North Dakota. She was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota.

Child of Aaron Neff and Hilda Johnson is:
131 i. Marvin Neff was born 14 SEP 1924 in North Dakota, and died 23 NOV 2008 in Sheridan County, North Dakota. He married Living Helm.

93. Christian G. Neff (Georg Heinrich Neff5, Johann Heinrich Neff4, Georg Peter Neff3, Otto Wilhelm Neff2, Heinrich Neff1) was born 3 MAR 1908 in North Dakota, and died 24 JAN 1948 in Burleigh County, North Dakota. He was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota. He married Ida Hoffer 20 MAR 1927. She was born 1909 in North Dakota, and died 1996. She was buried in McClusky City Cemetery - McClusky, Sheridan County, North Dakota.

Child of Christian G. Neff and Ida Hoffer is:
132 i. Living Neff.

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