Колонисты в Дании- Колонисты в Мюльберге

[David]

Данные из Плеве т4 и http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu/origins.cfm

N 37 Iphöfer Bernhard,21,luth; Anna Ursula 21;
Georg Ferdinand Iphöffer, son of Jerg Ferdinand Iphöffer & Catharina Hirsch, was born in 1711 in Germany. He married in Berwangen, northeast of Eppingen, to Anna Susanna Katharina Dünch in 1734. She was born in about 1710. They have at least 6 children, all born in Heinsheim, southwest of Gundelsheim: Eva Katharina (born 4 March 1738), Magdalena (born 23 March 1740), Dorothea (born 4 September 1744), Eva Salome (born 28 April 1746), Bernhard (born 11 March 1748), and Michael (born 18 June 1752).
The Iphöffer family is recorded in Frankfurt as leaving from Spöck, northeast of Karlsruhe, in 1761. They settled on 24 July 1761 on the farmstead of Fidelité in the colony of Friedrichsholm in Denmark (Schleswig-Holstein). On 29 July 1762, they moved to farmstead of Hüt das Holz.
On 4 January 1765, Ferdinand, Katharina, and four of the children left Denmark and immigrated to Russia. Daughter Eva Salome had married Georg David Dietz. They are recorded in Household No. 6 of the 1767 Census of Shcherbakovka, having arrived there a year earlier on 15 June 1765.
Heinsheim, Kurpfalz
N 39 Obländer Conrad, 32, luth, Ackerbauer aus Kleingartach; Magdalena 28, Matthias 6, Christina 1; 27.4.1766
Conrad Oppenländer, son of Johann Michael Oppenländer & Rosina Goldner, was born on 15 January 1736 in Kleingartach. He married there on 27 January 1761 to Maria Magdalena Mayer, daughter of Valentin Mayer & Christina Catharina Vogt. She had been born there in January 1740. They immigrated to Denmark (Schleswig-Holstein) and are recorded on 9 April 1764 on the farmstead of Fuchskuhle in the colony of Friedrichsanbau.
Kleingartach, Württemberg
N 40 Steinert Georg, 52, luth, Ackerbauer aus Ochsenburg; Helena Dorothea 58, Daniel 19; 27.4.1766
Johann Georg Steiner, son of Johann Georg Steiner & Anna Barbara Schmidt, was born 24 October 1715 in Ochsenburg, today in Baden-Württemberg. His father's family was originally from the village of Heutingsheim which no longer exists. In 1972-1973, it was combined with two other villages about 20 miles north of Stuttgart to become the town of Freiberg am Neckar. Johann Georg Junior married in Ochsenburg on 10 February 1739 to Helena Dorothea Schüz, daughter of Jacob Schüz. They have a number of children including Johann Daniel, born 3 May 1749 in Ochsenburg.
The Steiner (including 4 children at that time) moved to Denmark (today Schleswig-Holstein) where they settled in December 1761 on the farmstead of Charlottenhof in the colony of Christians Thal. In 1765, the family immigrated to Russia,
Ochsenburg, Württemberg
N 41 Briltimann Balthasar, 46, luth, Ackerbauer aus Kleingartach; Rosina Barbara 35, Barbara 6, Magdalena 5; 27.4.1766
Hanss Balthasar Brenckmann, son of Hanss Georg & Barbara Brenckmann, was born in Kleingartach on 14 October 1720. He married there on 5 August 1760 to Rosina Barbara Oppenländer, daughter of Johann Michael Oppenländer & Rosina Goldner. She was born 9 December 1732 in Kleingartach.
The family moved to Denmark (now Schleswig-Holstein). Two daughters were born there: Rosina Barbara (baptized 28 September 1762) & Magdalena (baptized 7 April 1764). The family settled on the Bunter Hof farmstead in the colony of Friedrichsanbau on 9 November 1764.
They did not stay long there, as they are recorded as having deserted the colony on 1 May 1765. They immigrated to Russia
Kleingartach, Württemberg

[viktor 2]

N 43 Müntermann Conrad, 36

Никак не могу найти, где было бы сказано, что Конрад Мюнтерманн был колонистом в Дании. Не укажете на конкретный источник, где это можно было бы почитать?

Johann Peter Wasenmüller was born 4 August 1741

А вот Иоганн Петер Вазенмюллер точно не был колонистом в Дании. Это мой предок и линия его предков отслежена до 1550 года.

[David]

Виктор здравствуйте!
В шапке сообщения я указал ссылку откуда взята информация.
Все я не проверял за ними, проверил лишь N 39 и 41.
C уважением, David

[viktor 2]

В шапке сообщения я указал ссылку откуда взята информация.

Но ведь там только это сказано:

MuentermannFN: said by the Shcherbakovka FSL to be fromUC Zell, [Erbach County]. For 1798 see Mai1798:Sv27. Fraenkisch-Crumbach parish records said this Muntermann man and wife left fromUC (nearby) Brensbach [Condominium] (Mai&Marquardt#1280a).
MuntermannFN{Konrad}: this man was born in Fränkisch-Crumbach, he and wife lived in Brensbach, and left Fraenkisch-Crumbach in 1766 for Russia (Gieg1). In 1798 his widow was living in Shcherbakovka (Mai1798:Sv27). See Daab.

И по поводу Вазенмюллер:

WassenmuellerFN{J.Peter}: said by the Shcherbakovka FSL to be fromUC Kirchberg; however, others transliterate this as Kergieberber and say it was near Loewenstein (Mai&Marquardt#556). For 1793, 1797 and 1798 see Mai1798:Mv2782, 2795, Sv10, 27, 38, 56 (the wife’s maiden name is given as Weinheimer), Dh66, and Ho35. This Wasenmueller man married in Buedingen in 1766 a Weinheimer woman (Mai&Marquardt#556). Gieg1 says that Habitzheim must have been his home.

или я не там смотрю?

[David]

Виктор, я согласен, скорее меня подвело незнание английского.
Оставил где упоминается Дания. Спасибо!
С уважением, David

[David]

viktor 2 писал
Известно, что некоторые колонисты прибывшие в Поволжье до этого были на службе в Дании у тамошнего короля. Просматривая в очередной раз списки покинувших Данию в направлении Россия, обнаружил что довольно большое количество их осело в Щербаковке. Поскольку число колонистов из Дании составляет более 50% от общего числа семей первопоселенцев колонии помещаю их список:( номер по Плеве том 4)
16.Johann Melchior Bauer,
32.Ludwig Beck,
41.Balthasar Brinckmann,
5.Georg David Dietz,
11.Johann Christoph Erhardt,
10.Konrad Gans,
23.Sebastian Haffner,
12.Johannes Hanschu,
36,37.Ferdinand und Bernhard Iphöfer,
24.Johann Adam Kaufmann,
27.Daniel Laubhan,
4,19,20,26.Christoph, Georg Adam, Leonhard und Martin Meier,
42.Leonhard Menges,
39.Konrad Obländer,
7.Wilhelm Reis,
30.Johann Jakob und Bernhard Reisig,
38.Georg Adam Riffel,
17.Johann Matthias Speldecker,
2.40.Christian und Georg Steinert,
30.Christian Stoppel,
1.Johann Michael Stricker,
22.Johannes Jakob Weiß,
3.Hans Georg Winter,
8.Georg Zwetzig.

[loginza2824]

Виктор здравствуйте!
maier adam 19 в книги плеве четвертый том
я бы уточнить хотела откуда они из германии там написанно weissach
есть ли у вас точные данные
с ув Елена

[viktor 2]

maier adam 19 в книги плеве четвертый том
я бы уточнить хотела откуда они из германии

В книге Айххорнов сказано:

Georg Adam Meyer *1721 aus Klosteramt Maulbronn, Württemberg

Кроме этих даных и того, что сказано в 4-ом томе Плеве мне больше не известно.